Prince William jokes about Royal baby during visit to ex-drug addicts at London charity

Prince William spoke to former drug and alcohol addicts at the charity in east London
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Jonathan Mitchell19 September 2017

The Duke of Cambridge joked with a trainee midwife over the birth of his third child as he spoke to recovering addicts during a visit to a London-based charity helping users to get clean.

Prince William quizzed addicts on their views on legalising drugs during his visit to the Spitalfields Crypt Trust (SCT), which for more than 50 years has provided support for substance abusers.

The Duke was handed wooden owls for Prince George, Princess Charlotte and a third for his unborn child – before joking with a former addict, now a trainee midwife, he might see her at the birth.

Earlier this month, Kensington Palace announced the Duchess of Cambridge is expecting a third child.

Prince William inspects a chair restored by a former-addict as part of the charity's therapeutic process
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But away from the light-hearted jokes about becoming a father for a third time, Prince William was keen to speak to addicts about the their own recoveries.

Sitting in an art room used by the charity based in Shoreditch, the Duke said to the trio: "Can I ask you a very massive question - it's a big one - there's obviously a lot of pressure growing in areas about legalising drugs and things like that.

“What are your individual opinions on that?

"I know it's a big question, but you seem like the key people to actually get a very good idea as to, you know, what are the big dangers there - what are the feelings?"

Heather Blackburn, 49, was the first to reply and said she thought the legalisation of drugs was "a good idea" and that money was wasted on "drug laws".

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She added: "Most of the people I've known in recovery, 95 per cent, had massive trauma and terrible stuff happen to them and using drugs to cope and then you get put in prison, you don't get the facilities and the actual help you need, you get punished.

"Which is not going to help anyone taking drugs, it's going to even do more harm I think."

When William asked: "So there needs to be more of a social element to it?" she replied there should be more help, such as psychiatrists, so people could turn their lives around earlier.

The Duke added: "So prison doesn't tackle the root cause of why someone is taking drugs?" and Ms Blackburn replied "No, it just punishes what you've done, not the reasons why."

Recovering alcoholic Grace Gunn told William: "There are still drugs in prison, you can't eliminate that fact that people do get drugs into prison.

The Duke of Cambridge in the drop-in cafe which is geared towards the homeless
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"But I'm a true believer people who end up in these places, we're damaged people. Whether that's through trauma or our relationship with parents or family or carer, and I think one thing to start the process, there has to be money in mental health therapy.

"You can't have two-year waiting lists for trauma therapy - I've been waiting five years."

The 19-year-old, who is training to become a midwife, added: "You can't just say, you know, 'drugs are illegal' or 'now we can all go and do drugs', because it doesn't stop the fact we're a nation of people hurting, and we can't undo all that overnight, it takes a long period of time."

William's interest in the debate on the legalisation of drugs came after the Liberal Democrat deputy leader, Jo Swinson, insisted her party was right to press for the legalisation of cannabis - predicting the issue would not be a concern to voters within 15 years.

The party's General Election manifesto called for the legalisation of the drug so it could be sold in a regulated market.

At the end of the discussion the Duke told the group: "Thank you, it's a very useful little snapshot. You guys have seen it and it's affected your lives in ways I can only imagine, so it's very interesting to hear that from you.

"Talking to you and being here it feels like a question I had to ask, I appreciate your honesty."

As he said his goodbyes William, in a jokey reference to the birth of his third child expected next spring, told Ms Gunn: "All the best with the midwifery - might see you sooner than you think."

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